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Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin has hit Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama hard, some might say below the belt, by accusing him of "palling around with terrorists."
This is, surely, a sensitive issue at a time when the United States is struggling to protect itself from terrorist attacks in a post-9/11 era. And echoes the undercurrent of accusation leveled at Obama from McCain supporters over his relationship with Bill Ayers, a former radical from the 1960s. But it's the kind of dig that is stunning, coming from a vice presidential candidate.
The attack was certainly not a slip of the tongue. Palin made it three times while on the campaign trail yesterday.
Ayers, now a college professor in Chicago, was a co-founder of the Weather Underground, which was responsible for a number of bombings in the '60s, including one in California which killed a police officer. Obama has spoken out against what Ayers and his group did back then.
Of course, it's a far stretch to try to associate Obama with those activities. He, of course, was just a child when they happened.
Ayers and Obama are neighbors in Chicago and served on a community board together. They also had an early tenuous political connection. But to say that Obama has been "palling around" with a known terrorist implies something more ominous. Especially when it comes from Palin.
What's the next thing we'll hear out of her mouth? Will she refer to the Democrat as Barack Hussein Obama, to strike fear into the hearts of those Americans who, wrongly, believe that Obama is a Muslim and, also incorrectly feel that all Muslims are terrorists?
The amount of vitriolic rhetoric fired at Obama is sometimes suffocating. For example, my inbox today included an alarming claim that three men who "brought down Wall Street" are all Obama economic advisers. But a quick search of the Urban Legends site, Snopes, reveals that this claim is false.
Of course, when I get these kinds of missives (there were no fewer than a dozen others in my inbox today) I simply consider the source. They are so overwhelming in their content, by the way, that any veracity that may be possibly included in them, frankly, escapes my attention. But this is not the kind of unsubstantiated attack one expects from a vice presidential candidate.
Could it be that the Republicans took a look at the latest polling data and decided they needed to make such a desperate move?
Americans have a keen interest in fair play. A move like this can very likely backfire on the Republicans. It will be interesting to see if the allegation now gains traction, or whether Palin is roundly criticized for making it. Given the facts as I understand them, I certainly hope the overall reaction, is the latter.
We discussed the Palin allegation and GOP complaints of alleged Democratic mudslinging on News Talk Online on Paltalk.com:
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Sarah needs to reflect on what happened to HILLARY CLINTON when she started campaigning LIES and PROPAGANDA against obama. Hillary LOST HER BASE !!
Clearly, Sarah is an airhead that only suits those who don't THINK!
REMEMBER... the overwhelming majority of obama voters are COLLEGE GRADS, INTELLIGENT, THINKING PEOPLE who CARE about the direction this country is headed in.. and let's face it, if Sarah were a few years older, and a bit wealthier, she could be the female twin of GW!!
LOL
THX GARY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND !!!
After dropping out of Michigan McCain is trying to use this issue of associating Obama with Ayers again. It didn't work very well before so now he's having Sarah start it up again where he left off. Yes you need to consider the source. Republicans will lie and ommit and exaggerate the facts. The sad part is it's seems like business as usual after 8 years of Bush. I say ppffff
Gary I couldn't agree with you more, but this started well before this OUTLANDISH claim by Sarah Palin fired at Obama, also the outright LIE that Obama will somehow raise taxes on middle class and voted 94 times to raise taxes, another claim that has already been debunked by most fact check websites. The Republican lies will not stop the country from looking at our current economic state or the failed Iraq war or terrorism going up by 25%, or the Russians threatening a New Cold War or the reactivation of a nuclear reactor in Pyongyang and WTG on stating the lights out on N Korea btw!!!!!
History has always shown that American presidential candidates will do whatever they have to do to cause others to question the morals and motives of other presidential candidates. This is certainly not a new thing. However with just having the memorial of 911 back in September and things still being fresh in the minds of all concerned; Palin played an ACE card so to speak. She drove the dagger home using thought provoking questions to the American people by subliminal action. Questions that demand an answer. With Americans being so sensitive towards Muslims at this time and with Obama having background as Muslim that will cause reason for pause to think about this presidential candidate. Americans will never forget what Muslim nations have done to the American people. Americans have a long memory and do not forget nor forgive when the loss of life that transpired on 911. We may not have all lost family or friends that day but we all felt the tremors of its effects upon each and every last American. Not only in the United States but throught out the world itself. For no one ever thought that anyone would be so blatant as to presume to attack the United States. The undercurrent that has been sending tremors through out the entire presidential race is that no one is satisfied with the candidates. Never in the history of the United States has a black man raced for the presidency. Especially with a background in Muslim. I am and I am sure that others too will be forced to wonder what will transpire in the United States should Obama and his running mate Biden make it as presidency. Or too what will transpire should McCain and his running mate make it to the presidency. So many feel so much uncertainty. So many concerns for what is about to transpire and so much uncertainty for our future and where it is headed remains to be seen. Hang on for the roller coaster ride of a lifetime because we are about to embark on a journey that will set matters into motion of future uncertainty.
I do not think it is likely that Sara Palin's commentary was meant to associate Obama with Bill Ayers' terroristic activities in the sixties, rather to bring into question Mr. Ayers' integrity as one of Obama's friends or associates.
I mean after all, were he (Ayers) to attempt a bombing today, it would most certainly be cosidered an act of terrorism.
I suspect that were it John McCain's associate responsible for acts of terrorism that the Democrats would be shouting that fact from the highest hill.
If it can (in fact) be said by any person that Mr. Ayers was involved in terrorism at one point or another, then why not by Sarah Palin?
As for the prior reader's comment, unless I am wrong, Sara Palin IS a college graduate whom apparently has a bit different view of politcs than the afformentioned reader has.
It is my opinion that Sarah Palin does not sound like a typical Washington politician primarily due to the fact that she isn't one. Her style is more that of (for lack of a better expression) "calling a spade a spade".
Personally i dont find it any more or less tasteless than Obama's commentary about "lipstick on a pig", which allegedly had absolutely NO implied reference to Sarah Palin laced into it at all. ;)
Hello Gary.
Great write up so let get going.
First of all I love the people who say that bush is a corrupt politician and love Obama at the same time.
These people have done 1 of 2 things they are ignorant of obamas political history or, they have just accepted it and just like 1 corrupt politician more than the other.
I applaud Sarah Palin in attacking Obama. These things need to be addressed. People need to know how dirty Obama is.
Let’s move on to Mr. Ayers.
Obama, who lives near Ayers in Chicago's Hyde Park, attended an event at Ayers's house when Obama ran for the state Senate in 1995—and served on the board of a nonprofit with him for several years. "Obama is aware of the acts Ayers committed when he was 8 years old and has called them 'detestable'.
Well lets examine this.
Obama is running for a state senete seat, why would someone running for a state senete seat attend an event at someones house he finds “destestable”?
In your post you say .
“Ayers, now a college professor in Chicago, was a co-founder of the Weather Underground, which was responsible for a number of bombings in the '60s, including one in California which killed a police officer. Obama has spoken out against what Ayers and his group did back then.”
Are we supposed to believe that obama was not aware of this at the time of their little get together in 1995?,,, please, lets not be silly.
I think the clear answer to this is he don’t find him detestable and certainly has ties to this man even today.
Now I will agree that for now, obama is keeping his deistance from ayers in public but you can rest assure,,they keep in contact very carefully.
Personaly I find it appauling that and college would let someone like ayers even come in contact with children much less teach them.
Would you want your child to be taught by this guy? If so I guess you would be ok with O.J. teaching your kids P.E too,,, right?
As you posted
“Ayers and Obama are neighbors in Chicago and served on a community board together. They also had an early tenuous political connection.” So there are ties. Let’s be honest.
But that’s chicago politics for you.
As you posted .
“What's the next thing we'll hear out of her mouth? Will she refer to the Democrat as Barack Hussein Obama.
My question, why not, that’s his name or 1 of them anyway. Here are a few others,
BARRY SOETORO
BARRY OBAMA
BARACK DUNHAM
BARRY DUNHAM.
Well Gary I have asked many paltalk obama supporters why he would have 5 names or the need to have 5 names that he has used.
Here are a few of the answers I get, “because he can”, “why shouldn’ he be able to have 5 names, ”ect, ect.
Gary, how many have you had to use in your lifetime?
I have only had to use 1.
People generally use a different name at certain time because they don’t want people to be able to look into their past or to fit into a society where their real name would not be acceptable, for whatever reason.
John Dillanger also had several names he used during his life,,,,,.
Lets get into “Obama politics” and his 1996 run for state senate seat.
Source http ://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/29/obamas.first.campaign/index.html
As a community organizer, he had helped register thousands of voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers.
The move denied each of them, including incumbent Alice Palmer, a longtime Chicago activist, a place on the ballot. It cleared the way for Obama to run unopposed on the Democratic ticket in a heavily Democrat district.
If names were printed instead of signed in cursive writing, they were declared invalid. If signatures were good but the person gathering the signatures wasn't properly registered, those petitions also were thrown out.
Now,, nothing obama did was illegal but it shows the depths and methods obama has and will use to win..
Now we are seeing it in ohio. From the mccain-palin campaign and CNN.
The stakes are extremely high and voters are already casting their ballots for the general election. You may have heard the media reports out of Ohio about same-day registration and voting. The Obama-Biden Democrats and their allies are exploiting loopholes in Ohio election laws that we fear may result in unqualified voters casting ballots. They're also hoping our voters will be so confused, that they will throw up their hands in frustration and stay at home instead of voting. That's why it's important to re-double our efforts.
The Democratic Secretary of State in Ohio even tried to disqualify thousands of Republican absentee ballot applications. She enlisted the help of liberal partisan friends and special interest groups when we challenged this in court. Thankfully, we were successful in taking the case all the way to the Ohio Supreme Court and won the right to reinstate these absentee ballot applications. The Obama-Biden Democrats will likely try this shameful, partisan tactic in other targeted states. They'll do anything to win this election.
Here is a quick youtube video showing illegal activitys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty4gGmXScJs please watch this and pay attension when someone finaly realizes that she is breaking election laws.
This is Obama politics.
AS you posted,
“Americans have a keen interest in fair play. A move like this can very likely backfire on the Republicans. It will be interesting to see if the allegation now gains traction, or whether Palin is roundly criticized for making it. Given the facts as I understand them, I certainly hope the overall reaction, is the latter.
If Americans are keen for “fair play”, then I think they should be made aware of what obama calls fair play and what Americans call fair play.
I have a certain perspective of what “fair play” is and so does Obama.
Its funny how people like obama have a special ideology about “fair play”.( do anything to win).
I hope Mccain and Palin expose Obama for who he realy is, a filty dirty politician from the streets of the south side of Chicago and part of the mayor Daley machine.
Obama never had an issue with ayers until he started running for president. Then he found it would be appropriate to know call the action of ayers “detestable”.
Just like Rev (god dam America) wright.
Obama never had an issue with his spiritual advisor and mentor in all the 20 years he was there until he realized that he would need millions of white voters to vote for him.
Then all of a sudden had a problem with the Rev. wright.
Fact is, he don’t have an issues with Rev Wright to this day.
Fact is, if you have issues with someone or a church spreading hatred and practicing “black theology” (google “black theology, I dare you) you would have left years ago.
But he didn’t until Rev wrights hatred towards whites started hitting youtube and becoming available for all Americans to see.
We should not just look at the people now detested by obama but why these people support obama in the first place.
What type of thought process and ideology does obama have that will attract supporters like father phleger, rev wright, ayers, rezco, hamas, louis farakahn, Jessie jackspon, and al sharpton.
You see, just because obama says now that he detests the words and action of these people, don’t diminish the reason why they like obama in the first place.
Its clear that obama has an ideology that these people like.
These people all have an ideology that most American wont like, if they are just made aware of it.
And I hope that Mccain and Palin make them aware of all of it.
Thanks Gary
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You seem a bit surprised, Gary, that Republican Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin reacts to Senator Obama like a typical conservative. I, too, am very concerned about the candidates past associates and would like to see him discuss these matters in public rather than refering us to a website where questions are not answered.
Senator McCain has asked all of his supporters not to refer to Senator Obama using his middle name and I would personally prefer that Conservatives stop trying to make the point that Obama is a muslim. Despite his obvious islamic origins and attendance of islamic schools in Indonesia I believe Senator Obama is a dedicated Marxist and Marxists are perceived to be inexorably hostile to religion and especially to Christianity (since Marxism grew up in the Christian West).
And there you have it, Senator Obama's early associates, including William Ayres as well as his wife, appear to be Marxists. We must be concerned that he would not have maintained those relationships if he totally disagrees with their views.
I hope you can appreciate Governor Palin trying to obtain these answers for us. Something everyone should know before casting their vote for president....
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Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin has hit Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama hard, some might say below the belt, by accusing him of "palling around with terrorists.""
William Ayers in an admitted terrorist, and Obama started his career in his living room, so I would say it's pretty accurate.
"But it's the kind of dig that is stunning, coming from a vice presidential candidate."
You mean like accusing McCain of supporting a tax increase for those earning over $46,000 when he didn't?
"Of course, it's a far stretch to try to associate Obama with those activities. He, of course, was just a child when they happened."
Obama's age then does not change nor lessen the crime now. He commited acts of terror and has never admitted contrition or remorse. He is a terrorist.
"Ayers and Obama are neighbors in Chicago and served on a community board together. They also had an early tenuous political connection."
"If John McCain had spent ten years on charitable boards with someone less egregious than abortion bombers — say, with Randall Terry of Operation Rescue — the New York Times would have Page One, in-depth reporting, complete with teams of reporters combing through the minutes of the board meetings." http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/04/gray-lady-on-ayers-obama-connection-nothing-to-see-here-move-along/
A low blow.
It will backfire.
Shame on you Sarah Palin!
"Will she refer to the Democrat as Barack Hussein Obama"
Is that not his name?
"The amount of vitriolic rhetoric fired at Obama is sometimes suffocating."
Sarah Palin having had an affair? Trig Palin is actually Britsol Palins son? Troopergate? Salin Palin being a religious zealot?
You need to open your eyes, Gary.
You know this election is making me dizzy. I may just have to change my screenname.
Now I am totally against with which way the republican party has moved in recent years: Involving religion with its politics,in its desire to move away from socialism creating two distinct groups, the haves and have nots, turning our government into a monarchy with the corporations as king.
There would be no way that i can vote for Mccain and Palin. That would be more of the same no doubt.
It's like dumb and dumber.
I want to vote for Obama and Biden because from what they have said I think they may be what our country needs. But i would just like for Obama to come forth and to publicly shout out against any and all of the accusations made against him. Deny them . Leave us with no doubts in our mind.
Now would be a great time for Hillary to come back into play.
Make her attorney general . The American people are at an impass and dont know which way to proceed. Bring Hillary back into the picture and create our dream team.
If not that, maybe create a 3rd party with Hillary for president and a republican as a candidate for VP along with her.
Imagine creating a 3rd party which can possibly unite the parties taking aspects from both which could benefit the country as a whole. Pretty cool I think. Frizzy163
I don't know one college grad friend of mine that likes Obama. I think one commentor maybe is the pot calling the kettle black when saying someone needs to check their facts before speaking. If you don't think there are republicans voting for McCain that are college grads and "intelligent" than you are really out of touch with reality. Obama, as far as I can see, is relying more on the disenchantment many have with Bush and actually very little substance of is own. Most "intelligent" people are not so reacionary but rather consider the facts and issues related to the candidate when voting. If all you have to do to feel good about voting Obama is dislike something about Bush, then Obama is your man. Myself, an "intelligent" college grad, I want what is good for my country, not just to speak out somehow against the former president but to improve things by making a wise selection on the next president. Politics, like the stock market, is often too much reaction based on emotions. Are you a college grad isabella? I wouldn't guess it from your silly thoughtless comment. To me, you sit in judgement of a lady that could think circles around you.
Just how outlandish is it to say that Obama has ties with many people that are bad characters. Not really a stretch at all. I could list many here but hopefully you will be hearing more about them all now. Many republicans such as myself have been wondering why McCain and Palin haven't been bringing Obama's connections to bad people up more already. I think in 2004 when Obama said he wouldn't be running for president in 2008 because he lacked the experience that the truth was he probably still needed to be convinced that someone with such a shady background and start into politics could even be a viable candidate. If there are some inaccuracies in what Palin attacked Obama for this time she and the republicans only need to get the next arrow out and shoot it. Obama and the low life characters in his past supply many arrows. I am only amazed that we don't hear more from the republican camp out his past. This is where I think the media plays a role in trying to silence things. Maybe it is time to actually take the gloves off. More power to you Gov. Palin. The truth is on your side, just find it and use it. We would rather know who Obama is now than after he is elected, wouldn't we?
If there is nothing for Obama to worry about why doesn't he come out and speak about some of these issues that the America people are feeling such disquiet over?
IF what Obama wants is change, and hope, then surely they could hope to change the secrecy that has been built up around some of these issues. IF he has nothing to fear then why doesn't he just speak out........ if he is as he claims, totally innocent of all these charges then surely the benefits of openness and honesty would outweigh the possible backlash.
Still, I must be naive, wanting honesty from Politicians!
I read your article with great interest, but I am surprised at how little investigative reporting you have seemed NOT to do.
First of all Obama was not a child a year ago, 3years ago or even 20 years ago when he first met Ayers who welcomed him to Chicago. Ayers picture stomping an American flag was well known in 2001. Ayers recommending Obama for a chairmans position, on the board of organizations that by the way have been investigated for illegal activities is also well known. Obama and Ayers involvment in Acorn, is also being investigated, the political arm of Acorn has pumped big bucks into Obama's campaign. I guess you also did not read or check up on Obamas hand picked committee to scout potential v.p's. Perhaps look up Johnsons backgroud and how he pushed for a presidential pardon against a jailed man who renounced his USA citizenship. Gary I do respect your reporting on important issues, but I am aghast at how you dont seem to check your statements. Ofcourse there is no need I guess to mention Risko or Rev.Write, or Phleugar, or Farakan
Perhaps you should use your invesitgating skills in looking into the following:
More than half of the whopping $426.9 million Barack Obama has raised has come from small donors whose names the Obama campaign won't disclose.
Questions have arisen about millions more in foreign donations the Obama campaign has received that apparently have not been vetted as legitimate
Ofcourse Obama has no control who supports him ..or does he?
This article is accurate and perhaps may help you to think:
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=76758
Obama's connection with ACORN, is not a casual one by the way.
Barack Obama wasn't just the second-largest recipient of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac political contributions. He was also the senator from ACORN, the activist leader for risky "affirmative action" loans.
The New York Post article outlines Obamas "dangerous pals" and questionable associations.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09292008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/os_dangerous_pals_131216.htm
Gary, please do not blame Gov. Palin for the actions, associations, and choice of friends made soley by Barack Obama
That I am sorry to say is "below the belt" I think your journalist background and education needs to kick in.
It also is interesting that one of Obama's lawyers, if not more, are well connected with CAIR,a strong muslim lobbying organization, involved in the Holy Land Foundation, under indictment in Federal courts for money laudering.
No Gary, dont blame Gov.Palin or anyone else for Obama's associatin woes
I read your article with great interest, but I am surprised at how little investigative reporting you have seemed NOT to do.
First of all Obama was not a child a year ago, 3years ago or even 20 years ago when he first met Ayers who welcomed him to Chicago. Ayers picture stomping an American flag was well known in 2001. Ayers recommending Obama for a chairmans position, on the board of organizations that by the way have been investigated for illegal activities is also well known. Obama and Ayers involvment in Acorn, is also being investigated, the political arm of Acorn has pumped big bucks into Obama's campaign. I guess you also did not read or check up on Obamas hand picked committee to scout potential v.p's. Perhaps look up Johnsons backgroud and how he pushed for a presidential pardon against a jailed man who renounced his USA citizenship. Gary I do respect your reporting on important issues, but I am aghast at how you dont seem to check your statements. Ofcourse there is no need I guess to mention Risko or Rev.Write, or Phleugar, or Farakan
Perhaps you should use your invesitgating skills in looking into the following:
More than half of the whopping $426.9 million Barack Obama has raised has come from small donors whose names the Obama campaign won't disclose.
Questions have arisen about millions more in foreign donations the Obama campaign has received that apparently have not been vetted as legitimate
Ofcourse Obama has no control who supports him ..or does he?
This article is accurate and perhaps may help you to think:
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=76758
Obama's connection with ACORN, is not a casual one by the way.
Barack Obama wasn't just the second-largest recipient of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac political contributions. He was also the senator from ACORN, the activist leader for risky "affirmative action" loans.
The New York Post article outlines Obamas "dangerous pals" and questionable associations.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09292008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/os_dangerous_pals_131216.htm
Gary, please do not blame Gov. Palin for the actions, associations, and choice of friends made soley by Barack Obama
That I am sorry to say is "below the belt" I think your journalist background and education needs to kick in.
It also is interesting that one of Obama's lawyers, if not more, are well connected with CAIR,a strong muslim lobbying organization, involved in the Holy Land Foundation, under indictment in Federal courts for money laudering.
No Gary, dont blame Gov.Palin or anyone else for Obama's associatin woes
Gary, perhaps you need to do some deeper investigative reporting.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09292008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/os_dangerous_pals_131216.htm
Please do not blame Gov. Palin, for Obama's choices over the past 20 years (he first met Ayres when he was recruited by him in Chicago.
There probably is no need in your opinion to check out Obama and his connection with ACORN,or Risko, or Johnson, whom he hand picked to head up his v.p. search committee.
Sorry Gary but your the one hitting below the belt. Oh by the way look at some of Obama's lawyers, from CAIR. They are the organization and lobby group (muslim) who are being investigated for their connection with the Holy Land Foundation,for money laundering.
I'm aghast at little checking you did, sad to say. No Gary dont get on the attack Gov.Palin wagon, for Obamas past or present dangerous choices.
Are we suppose to close our eyes to Obamas ties? So Obama sitting in a church for 20 years with a preacher preaching hate all white people, friends with a known bomber and his hands in this whole Fanny Mae Freddy Mac disaster we should not notice. Lets also not forget his buddies with the Nation of Islam. Give me a break Gary. The Democrates must really think Americans are stupid. Oh wait. They do think we are stupid. Super Deligates?? How much did Obamas campaigne pay them.
Gary, Gary, Gary, I am shocked your wrote what you did. You blame Gov. Palin for Obama's choices of close friends, pasotrs, advisors.
Shame on you, check into Obamas connection with ACORN, CAIR, etc.
Gary, you really need to know what your saying, do some research, and please stop the finger pointing in the wrong direction
signed "patts"
This is, surely, a sensitive issue at a time when the United States is struggling to protect itself from terrorist attacks in a post-9/11 era. And echoes the undercurrent of accusation leveled at Obama from McCain supporters over his relationship with Bill Ayers, a former radical from the 1960s. But it's the kind of dig that is stunning, coming from a vice presidential candidate.
Why do you consider this a “stunning dig”? It’s not a dig - stunning or otherwise - by any stretch of the imagination. It’s simply calling a spade a spade. Barack Obama launched his candidacy for the Illinois state senate from William Ayers’ HOME and served with him on a board of directors. Those facts directly contradict Obama’s claim that Ayers is just a ‘guy in the neighborhood’. They know one another and quite well. I have to agree with Hillary Clinton when she said that befriending both Jeremiah Wright AND William Ayers were not choices most Americans would make and she certainly wouldn’t. Nor would I.
The attack was certainly not a slip of the tongue. Palin made it three times while on the campaign trail yesterday.
“The attack”? Oh, give me a break! It wasn’t an attack, but I agree it wasn’t a slip of the tongue. Bill Ayers is one of the FOUNDERS of the Weather Underground that attacked the Pentagon, the Capitol and other public buildings in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. My question to you is, do YOU consider bombing the Pentagon, the Capitol and other public buildings in this country to be terrorist acts? I will tell you that I do and in my opinion, Ayers though never convicted, is a criminal and a terrorist, who has not only shown no remorse, but one who waged war against this country – and that includes me – and you.
Ayers, now a college professor in Chicago, was a co-founder of the Weather Underground, which was responsible for a number of bombings in the '60s, including one in California which killed a police officer. Obama has spoken out against what Ayers and his group did back then.
The fact that a college in Chicago has demonstrated disturbingly bad judgment by putting him in a teaching position lends no legitimacy to the man and most particularly when he was quoted in the (inarguably) liberal New York Times on September 11, 2001 as saying, “I don’t regret setting bombs; I feel we didn’t do enough.”
Yes, yes… Obama “spoke out” when his association with Ayers came to light and also made an intentionally misleading attempt to distance himself from Ayers, too but when that didn’t work, tried to reinvent Ayers and place him in the “mainstream”.
Of course, it's a far stretch to try to associate Obama with those activities. He, of course, was just a child when they happened.
No one is trying to associate Obama with “those activities”. What Sarah Palin is pointing out and quite rightly, is the same thing that Hillary Clinton did – Barack Obama has demonstrated consistently poor judgment in his choice of associates. He also is consistent in emulating and admiring the wrong people for all the wrong reasons. Plainly stated, the man is so misguided that he’s dangerous and terribly immature emotionally and politically.
Ayers and Obama are neighbors in Chicago and served on a community board together. They also had an early tenuous political connection. But to say that Obama has been "palling around" with a known terrorist implies something more ominous. Especially when it comes from Palin.
Oh, blah blah blah! We're talking politics and it is completely fair to judge Barack Obama by his associates. In 1981 David Horowitz quoted Ayers bragging “Guilty as hell. Free as a bird. America is a great country.” Ayers’ wife, Bernadine Dohrn went to jail rather than aid the government after the deadly Brinks armored car robbery. And let’s get something perfectly straight: The Ayers-Obama connection isn’t an “early tenuous political connection”. The Obama-Ayers personal, professional, and political connection spans nearly 20 years. Going back to when they probably really DID meet in 1988 following Chicago’s teacher’s strike and Obama was hired into a Woods Fund sponsored position with Developing Communities Project that was a member of Bill Ayers’ Alliance for Better Chicago Schools (ABCs) (Global Labor and Politics, June 7, 2008).
Want some more? In November 20, 1997 Michelle Obama, then Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University of Chicago Community Service Center, organized and participated in a panel that included Obama and Ayers, Should a child ever be called a “super predator?” at the University of Chicago. Chicago Tribune. In 1997 Obama wrote a review of Ayers’ book “A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court”. The Chicago Tribune even published a blurb from Obama about books he was reading. USA Today April 19-20, 2002, Obama, Ayers, and Dohrn participated in a conference and panel “Intellectuals: Who Needs Them?“. Chicago Tribune. In February 2005 Obama and Ayers both participated in a conference and dinner for Rashid Khalidi at Columbia and they offered testimonials to Khalidi. Mayor Mayor Daley also attended. The Sun and Campus Watch Khalidi subsequently lost his position at Columbia because of his comments.New York Times.)
What's the next thing we'll hear out of her mouth? Will she refer to the Democrat as Barack Hussein Obama, to strike fear into the hearts of those Americans who, wrongly, believe that Obama is a Muslim and, also incorrectly feel that all Muslims are terrorists?
Question: IS his name Barack Hussein Obama or not? I’ve heard Sarah Palin also refer to the Republican presidential candidate as John Sidney McCain. Do you think that the use of his middle name is wrong or in some way worse than the liberal accusation that Palin is using her infant son as a campaign prop or any number of ugly, personal, vicious accusations and/or rumors flung or started about Sarah Palin? The MSM has treated Obama as if he's some kind of sacred cow that's completely above question and that to do so is heresey. Here's a newsflash: His multi-racial ethnicity doesn't raise him above question OR reproach nor is he special or more delicate BECAUSE he's multi-racial. He's running for the highest elected office in the country; is he so ridiculously naive - is ANYONE so ridiculously dumb as to think that his associations wouldn't come under scrutiny? Are YOU so naive as to think that his associations with the likes of Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko and William Ayers wouldn't or SHOULDN'T be questioned and thoroughly investigated?
But this is not the kind of unsubstantiated attack one expects from a vice presidential candidate.
I think it’s high time the McCain Campaign took off the velvet gloves and came out punching. As long as it’s truthful, I have no problem with it. As I’ve said before, the truth can be ugly and the truth can bite, but it is what it is. Palin isn’t making unsubstantiated attacks. It’s not a case of if it walks like or quacks like a duck – the documentation is real - and it’ll take more than Snopes OR Bonami to take the stain of Bill Ayers off Barack Obama, who has consistently lied and tried to downplay their association.
Bill Ayers founded the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, secured the initial $50 million from Annenberg Challenge, and claims to have co-chaired the Collaborative it with Barack Obama. While there is nothing to explicitly prove that Bill recruited Barack, it is simply not credible to say that Bill Ayers had nothing to do with Barack Obama joining the organization.
Could it be that the Republicans took a look at the latest polling data and decided they needed to make such a desperate move?
Could it be that Sarah Palin is doing EXACTLY what a vice presidential candidate is expected to do as the ticket's bulldog? She's just telling those who don't already know that it’s increasingly clear that Ayers and Obama worked together, shared the same circle of friends and families, same business associates, and same political associates. Fact: They were involved in at least three different “charitable” organizations: The Woods Fund of Chicago, which Obama joined in 1993 and Bill Ayers joined in 1997 and what about the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which Ayers founded and worked on with Barack Obama from 1995 through 1999. While Obama chaired the Challenge, Ayers co-chaired its collaborative arm. These were actually three connected organizations: Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC, the Board), Chicago School Reform Collaborative (the Collaborative, and Consortium of Chicago Schools Research (CCSR).
Americans have a keen interest in fair play. A move like this can very likely backfire on the Republicans. It will be interesting to see if the allegation now gains traction, or whether Palin is roundly criticized for making it. Given the facts as I understand them, I certainly hope the overall reaction, is the latter.
Yes, Americans have a sense of fairplay and we don't like being treated as if we don't know come here from sic 'em either when we do. Barack Obama needs to man up to the truth – and so do you. Sarah Palin is right. READ MY LIPSTICK!
Gary is a typical democrat defending Obama, he does not care about Obamas ties to terrorist whether international or domestic, lets crack on Sarah for lipstick as long as we don't crack on the terrorist supporter.
I find the feigned ignorance of Obama's troubling associations by the Left either contrived or willful. Take your pick. It is also ridiculous for AP and others to claim that somehow pointing out Obama's admitted and publicly documented long-term relationship with an unrepentent domestic terrorist is somehow racist.
It is clear from the Annenburg Challenge records that Obama had significant dealings with Ayers on a regular basis. A 2001 article on the unrepentent terrorist Ayers, published AFTER Ayers had been associating with his friend Obama for years, shows a picture of him standing on an American Flag. what more do we need to know?
Is the last hope of this sinking campaign to go negative? As I write this, the DOW is down 490 points. Does McCain and his team really believe that talking about Ayers is the make or break issue of the election? Do they have such tin ears? They are going to get a taste of their own medicine today when the Obama campaign releases a 13 minute piece on McCain and the Keating 5. For those who don't remember the S&L crisis, it was the last time that the US government had to come and bail out banks on the verge of insolvency. I am amazed that McCain, losing so much ground in the polls nationally and in key battleground states wants to defend himself against his past economic foibles.
ATTILA !!!!! good to see you posting here, keep up the great {as allways} research and comments !!!
S_LINK90
Patts! Atilla!!
SPOT on....!!!!!!!!!!
Good Job disecting the tree hugging untruths!!
WTG Palin for calling a Spade a spade!!
"Americans have a keen interest in fair play"
Jan
I listened to your show this after noon. I do so wish that your research team had enlightened you more.
First of all, McCain's involvement with Ifshin was after Ifshin admitted to having been wrong.
" He had believed America had made a tragic mistake and done a terrible injustice by going to Vietnam, and he still did. But he realized he had let his criticism temporarily blind him to his country's generosity and the goodness that most Americans possess, and he regretted his failing deeply..."
http://www.nysun.com/editorials/mccain-and-ifshin/32880/
McCain said that the two of them became friends AFTER Ifshin regretted his actions during Viet Nam.
Now, the Keating Five. McCain was found not to have been part of the mess. Nor was he ever prosecuted, for those reasons.
But let's see, were the Keating people planning on blowing up our country? Did they do terroristic acts?
Gary, Obama was a grown man while hanging out with a terrorist- not a repentant man but one who, as an adult says he felt they did NOT DO ENOUGH terrorism.
No repentance there, Gary.
Tell you what though, how would you like to hire me to do some research for you ahead of show time? ;)
-LD McLellan
Thank you, s_link. That's very kind of you and it is really gratifying to see other conservatives standing up in defense of Sarah Palin and freedom of speech for EVERYONE! Clearly, the Left would happily steal it away from us, along with other guaranteed rights and freedoms, if we relax our vigilance for even a moment. (Note the Obama goon squads in Missouri and bully for their governor, Matt Blunt, for standing up to them, too!)
Gary, maybe you’ll be generous enough to allow me a bit of free advertising? I have a blog too: Conservative Watchdog 2008, www.cwd2008.blogspot.com and you're all welcome to participate there as well and get the juices going. Yes, Gary, even you! I mention that because at the moment, I'm particularly interested in the next volley to be fired in the Philip J. Berg Esquire Vs. Barack Hussein Obama, Et Al case in US District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania. Since the DNC’s motion to dismiss the case was denied and Obama, under the rules of discovery, was ordered to produce a certified copy of the "original" long version of his birth certificate, a certified copy of his Certification of Citizenship and a certified copy of his Oath of Allegiance by TODAY, I’m wondering if he complied with the judge’s order… Who knows? All this discussion could be for naught if it turns out that the birth certificate is fraudulent, or if his mother didn't apply to have his citizenship reinstated after their return from Indonesia to the US. Could this attempted exposé of Obama's birthplace and therefore, ineligibility, be the long awaited and highly anticipated (by some) Clinton Political Machine's October Surprise? Lions and tigers and bears! Oh, my!
Gary, I will say this . I was not happy that Sarah Palin would do this, I am harder on my people running than I am on Obama. I would have thought Palin had more integrity than to stoop to low blow politics. So right now I am not very pleased with her character . I only hope she changes her character soon before it is too late.
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