tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4294294294975883770.post7919640962509482714..comments2024-01-23T21:51:59.450-05:00Comments on The Gary Baumgarten Report: News Talk Online May 6, 2009: Is The Swine Flu Nature's Way Of Fighting Overpopulation?Gary Baumgartenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16665260595151901802noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4294294294975883770.post-62228139528993261712009-05-07T13:13:00.000-04:002009-05-07T13:13:00.000-04:00Overpopulation is not a topic that many people are...Overpopulation is not a topic that many people are familiar with, and so they dont really know enough about it. It has been starring us in the face for several decades.. but we have all been too busy !!<br /><br />If you dont believe in overpopulation then you better think again, because it is already affecting the way that you live and the conditions in which you live. One only has to glance at the UN figures to begin to understand the scale of the problem (www. un.org/popin/wdtrends and www.worldwatch.org or the national geographic cover http://www.nationalgeographic.com/eye/overpopulation/overpopulation.html) .<br /><br />There are also a number of international organisations like UNFPA, PAI (as well as forums like mine: overpopulation action network forum on facebook) who are trying to raise public awareness. Check them outAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4294294294975883770.post-72843045366972377322009-05-06T11:46:00.000-04:002009-05-06T11:46:00.000-04:00Well, I think there is another possibility, which ...Well, I think there is another possibility, which is that some of the Few think there are too many people, especially those in populations in demographic decline, who might want to target certain populations for reduction, a demographic/Turko-Mongolian strategy of war. It has been done unconsciously of course, especially in the Columbian exchange, but the possibilities are quite good that if an elite thought the planet was overpopulated and thought they were doing poorly long run in the competition for survival, that then bugs get released.<br />For example, Zimbabwe is, yes, a "feast" waiting to happen, and the cholera epidemic could be just that.<br />However, it is also a landlocked country, and former Soviet client state, which means access, and none of the neighboring countries got a waterborne pathogen, cholera of course, which made we wonder if someone was "practicing." I got subtly told to shut up when I wrote a piece about it, which included the observation that 10-15 per cent of the U.S. water supply is vulnerable to cholera by a guy who was supposedly,<br />a) an infectious disease specialist<br />b) making a bizarre movie about two Eastern European peasants who were living out a fable of how if you don't keep your mouth shut you die a horrible death.<br />I wondered if that was a threat, to keep my mouth shut, like this stuff is not an accident. rated in any event, accident or no. Jared Diamond is worried for the same reason; I just worry someone who is worried is goin to give things a 12 Monkeys kind of push.<br /><br />Don RichAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4294294294975883770.post-66618857746200989482009-05-02T08:40:00.000-04:002009-05-02T08:40:00.000-04:00I think our own stupidity is doing a more than ade...I think our own stupidity is doing a more than adequate job of setting us up for a fall in numbers.<br /><br />John LeonardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4294294294975883770.post-76779153832302887312009-05-02T08:09:00.000-04:002009-05-02T08:09:00.000-04:00Overpopulation is a myth. And now that we have the...Overpopulation is a myth. And now that we have the internet and all of the data available at our fingertips, it is easily proven. Some cities may be overpopulated because so many people want to live there, but the planet is not. Planet earth is fine. Check it out.<br /><br />Deborah YoungAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4294294294975883770.post-46120566142627470312009-05-02T01:04:00.000-04:002009-05-02T01:04:00.000-04:00I think people need to get a grip and use their co...I think people need to get a grip and use their common sense... Here is an interesting swine flu reality check: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/SwineFlu/story?id=7471341&page=1<br /><br />"Swine flu may sound nasty. As of late Thursday, there are 236 cases of swine flu and eight confirmed deaths worldwide. <br /><br />But by comparison an estimated 600 people die of tuberculosis, about 1,400 people die from strep and 2,704 people die from a common asbestos-related lung cancer in the United States every year. <br /><br />Last year the seasonal flu took the lives of 83 children and an estimated 36,000 adults in the United States"Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306103890398728858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4294294294975883770.post-63693344393358057012009-05-01T23:57:00.000-04:002009-05-01T23:57:00.000-04:00To answer your title: Yes, of course. But it's not...To answer your title: Yes, of course. But it's not like Nature has this as its intent or anything. I think War is too, by the way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4294294294975883770.post-18849022753206063432009-05-01T23:43:00.000-04:002009-05-01T23:43:00.000-04:00Give the swine flu a rest and let the little piggy...Give the swine flu a rest and let the little piggy go wee wee wee all the way home! <br /><br />Human beings <B><I>are</I></B> at the top of nature's food chain and in my opinion, it’s individuals like Leon Kolankiewicz that are arrogant and self-important by actually believing that nature hasn't been in complete control all along. Bubonic plague, smallpox, measles, tuberculosis, cancer, cholera, Hong Kong flu, the AIDS virus, seasonal flu that, in bloom, kills an average of 300-400 people a day every year and <B><I>the swine flu pandemic of 2009</I></B>? Why has the United States of America cast itself in the role of a third world country and allowed a historically inept WHO brew such a tempest in our teapot? <br /><br />More to the point, there has been a recent rash of murders in this country, including police officers, committed by illegal aliens, but the government didn’t dare mention closing our borders despite numerous deaths, because of course, that would be racist! But lest we forget, oh screw it - we already did – every OTHER country in the world has closed borders. No, that was never an option until ONE 23-month old Mexican citizen died from swine flu. Of course, irrational talk about closing our Southern border was quickly hushed when the brilliant minds in Washington realized that closing our borders would never contain a “pandemic”, but foregoing air travel, mass transit and bankrupting those industries is. So much for intelligent advice from the highest government levels...<br /><br />The reality is that nature is cyclical... with or without attempted human intervention by ecologists, environmentalists, "natural resource planners", undeserving Nobel Prize Winners who are getting fat by lining their pockets through the industries they’re building on de-bunked global warming theories and ridiculously costly “green jobs”.Moose Schnauzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08954719323915364135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4294294294975883770.post-2248751213373728142009-05-01T22:15:00.000-04:002009-05-01T22:15:00.000-04:00... Perhaps Leon Kolankiewicz is right. Humans are...... Perhaps Leon Kolankiewicz is right. Humans are pretty arrogant in beleiving we're top of the food chain.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306103890398728858noreply@blogger.com