David Keanu Sai, who claims he is the acting interior minister of the Kingdom of Hawaii (currently occupied by the United States) says there is, lawfully, no state of Hawaii in the USA.
Sai, a guest on News Talk Online on Paltalk.com, says he is not advocating that Hawaii secede from the union. Because, he argues, it's not part of the United States.
Sai says the Kingdom of Hawaii was occupied by the United States for strategic military reasons. He's taken his case to the Hague and to the UN Security Council, where he hopes to still gain some ground for recognition of Hawaii as an independent nation.